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	<title>Comments on: Tuesday Quick Post/Rage: Open-Source Boob Project, really? REALLY?!?</title>
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	<description>Writing, Anti-Oppression &#38; Science-Fiction</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 08:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: naamenblog</title>
		<link>http://naamenblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/tuesday-quick-postrage/#comment-4883</link>
		<dc:creator>naamenblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YN- 
Just that quote sent a shiver up my spine. It's so patronizing and "To Catch a Predator".</description>
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Just that quote sent a shiver up my spine. It&#8217;s so patronizing and &#8220;To Catch a Predator&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: YN</title>
		<link>http://naamenblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/tuesday-quick-postrage/#comment-4873</link>
		<dc:creator>YN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 08:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;By the end of the evening, women were coming up to us. "My breasts," they asked shyly, having heard about the project. "Are they... are they good enough to be touched?" And lo, we showed them how beautiful their bodies were without turning it into something tawdry. &lt;/i&gt;

I emailed SDCon about this.  No response.  When I emailed again, I got a notification of "exceeding the email queue."

Nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>By the end of the evening, women were coming up to us. &#8220;My breasts,&#8221; they asked shyly, having heard about the project. &#8220;Are they&#8230; are they good enough to be touched?&#8221; And lo, we showed them how beautiful their bodies were without turning it into something tawdry. </i></p>
<p>I emailed SDCon about this.  No response.  When I emailed again, I got a notification of &#8220;exceeding the email queue.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Elephant, Cork, Monkey,&#8230; &#171; mindful meanderings</title>
		<link>http://naamenblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/tuesday-quick-postrage/#comment-4794</link>
		<dc:creator>Elephant, Cork, Monkey,&#8230; &#171; mindful meanderings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] too, posted some knee-jerks to this, ah, person&#8217;s Open Source [yes, thanks for hijacking that term and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] too, posted some knee-jerks to this, ah, person&#8217;s Open Source [yes, thanks for hijacking that term and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: naamenblog</title>
		<link>http://naamenblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/tuesday-quick-postrage/#comment-4792</link>
		<dc:creator>naamenblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R. -
&lt;i&gt;“It’s for your own good,” and “I know what’s best for you.”&lt;/i&gt;

You're right he sounds exactly like some father figure patronizingly telling someone they "know what's best" and that "this is actually good for them" and yes he "understands the implications" and "it's actually liberating" but in reality the fact that he had the nerve to even suggest such a thing and to put it into effect at Penguicon shows that - No, he really doesn't get it on a deep, deep level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R. -<br />
<i>“It’s for your own good,” and “I know what’s best for you.”</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;re right he sounds exactly like some father figure patronizingly telling someone they &#8220;know what&#8217;s best&#8221; and that &#8220;this is actually good for them&#8221; and yes he &#8220;understands the implications&#8221; and &#8220;it&#8217;s actually liberating&#8221; but in reality the fact that he had the nerve to even suggest such a thing and to put it into effect at Penguicon shows that - No, he really doesn&#8217;t get it on a deep, deep level.</p>
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		<title>By: R.</title>
		<link>http://naamenblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/tuesday-quick-postrage/#comment-4790</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His claim that it empowers a woman to give consent has the same stench as "It's for your own good," and "I know what's best for you."

How patronising.

What he needs is some big, burly man from the Bear Community, one who's twice his size and upper body strength, to express intense, leering, drooling, zombie-like interest in a bit of cuppage.  Or more.  

How safe would a 'red button' make him feel from that kind of attention?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His claim that it empowers a woman to give consent has the same stench as &#8220;It&#8217;s for your own good,&#8221; and &#8220;I know what&#8217;s best for you.&#8221;</p>
<p>How patronising.</p>
<p>What he needs is some big, burly man from the Bear Community, one who&#8217;s twice his size and upper body strength, to express intense, leering, drooling, zombie-like interest in a bit of cuppage.  Or more.  </p>
<p>How safe would a &#8216;red button&#8217; make him feel from that kind of attention?</p>
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		<title>By: naamenblog</title>
		<link>http://naamenblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/tuesday-quick-postrage/#comment-4788</link>
		<dc:creator>naamenblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R. - Yeah his thought that he was helping women in some way was particularly annoying and infuriating. Anyone who thinks that it's helpful for women when a groups of strangers approach and ask to touch her breasts? Has some issues I really don't want to think about. 

As for the Con scene I heartily recommend WisCon if you can make it, the foremost Feminist F/SF convention and a whole lot of fun with less triggering moments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R. - Yeah his thought that he was helping women in some way was particularly annoying and infuriating. Anyone who thinks that it&#8217;s helpful for women when a groups of strangers approach and ask to touch her breasts? Has some issues I really don&#8217;t want to think about. </p>
<p>As for the Con scene I heartily recommend WisCon if you can make it, the foremost Feminist F/SF convention and a whole lot of fun with less triggering moments.</p>
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		<title>By: R.</title>
		<link>http://naamenblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/tuesday-quick-postrage/#comment-4786</link>
		<dc:creator>R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm agog at this whole thing, that some weaselguy would suggest that it's *really* doing women [!] a Big Favour.  How stupid does he think we are?  How twistedly stupid is *he*??

Here I was, contemplating re-entering the Con scene, when some jerk comes along and reminds me out loud of why I fled it in the first goddamned place.

Swell.  

Just when I thought it was safe to go back in the water,....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m agog at this whole thing, that some weaselguy would suggest that it&#8217;s *really* doing women [!] a Big Favour.  How stupid does he think we are?  How twistedly stupid is *he*??</p>
<p>Here I was, contemplating re-entering the Con scene, when some jerk comes along and reminds me out loud of why I fled it in the first goddamned place.</p>
<p>Swell.  </p>
<p>Just when I thought it was safe to go back in the water,&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Open Source Boob Project&#8221;: Around the blogs at Hoyden About Town</title>
		<link>http://naamenblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/tuesday-quick-postrage/#comment-4781</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;Open Source Boob Project&#8221;: Around the blogs at Hoyden About Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Words from the Centre, Words from the Edge: Tuesday Quick Post/Rage: Open-Source Boob Project, reall... DAMN! This is some privileged BULLSHIT! This is disgusting! This the the illusion of endorsing open sexuality by opening up bodies that aren’t your own for touch! This is a way for you to get your rocks off groping womyn in public and pretending to be deep! This is enforcing the belief that womyn are public property! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Words from the Centre, Words from the Edge: Tuesday Quick Post/Rage: Open-Source Boob Project, reall&#8230; DAMN! This is some privileged BULLSHIT! This is disgusting! This the the illusion of endorsing open sexuality by opening up bodies that aren’t your own for touch! This is a way for you to get your rocks off groping womyn in public and pretending to be deep! This is enforcing the belief that womyn are public property! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: naamenblog</title>
		<link>http://naamenblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/tuesday-quick-postrage/#comment-4772</link>
		<dc:creator>naamenblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bankuei-
&lt;i&gt;WTF/APPLY FIRE LIBERALLY.&lt;/i&gt;
Seriously! In my sleepy state I was convinced it was a nightmare as I was reading the post. 

I just made a post about Feministe's short term memory although there's at least now a update that acknowledges the problems with making that post at this time. It just makes me a little angry (and sad) that she didn't think about the problems on her own and that it had to be brought to her attention in the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bankuei-<br />
<i>WTF/APPLY FIRE LIBERALLY.</i><br />
Seriously! In my sleepy state I was convinced it was a nightmare as I was reading the post. </p>
<p>I just made a post about Feministe&#8217;s short term memory although there&#8217;s at least now a update that acknowledges the problems with making that post at this time. It just makes me a little angry (and sad) that she didn&#8217;t think about the problems on her own and that it had to be brought to her attention in the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: naamenblog</title>
		<link>http://naamenblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/tuesday-quick-postrage/#comment-4770</link>
		<dc:creator>naamenblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate - Thank you for that. I was so sleep deprived and angry I was unsure I was being completely coherent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate - Thank you for that. I was so sleep deprived and angry I was unsure I was being completely coherent.</p>
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